Are you the one that thinks that your single crown is already good enough? I doubt it. Were conducting a survey and would appreciate your input. I've ridden a newer remedy with the 'knock block' and didn't really notice it at all. From our first impressions a lighter, stiffer, more supple, more affordable 180mm 29er enduro to freeride fork seems pretty much like a no-brainer. Enduro bikes with a dual crown, how about we just call it what it really is, a freeride bike. 64-degree head angles, and now talking about dual crown forks what a joke. Hell yeah! I think it's just Kirt Vories throwing bars on an enduro bike. We might see something more compelling with the full 30 // end pedantic rant //. Spotted at the Giro, Carbon-TI unveils new ultralight X-Rotor SteelCarbon 3 floating carbon-carrier disc brake rotors in 140/160/180mm and 6-bolt & centerlock compatibility! I dont care a whole lot about weight because I only pedal occasionally and it works fine for flat ground and mild uphill so far haven't done anything steep yet, I only just finished building it, but it does way 42.5 pounds. Survey results will be used to recognize top brands. Go to MTB r/MTB Posted by -cc1337 Double Crown Fork or Normal Fork? All-new Scott Plasma RC TT time trial bike is the fastest thing on two wheels the Swiss bike maker has ever created, plus its super flexible, Whether its their early pop tunes, mid-era rock classics, or psychedelic sounds, I challenge anyone to say they dont like at least some of The, Carbon wheel manufacturer, Reynolds, has renewed its lineup of 29 and 27.5 wheels for Enduro and Downhill, now boasting shallower, more compliant rims said to, When cycling, your shoes are an important accessory that enhance comfort, control, and efficiency, and finding the best road bike shoes can help elevate your. Our SCW1 enduro only comes with dual-crown forks. This was hands down one of the most interesting technical mtb videos I've seen. Its a question of momentum. Bravo to Formula for not just trying something a bit different than the rest, but something that also seems to be good from an engineering standpoint. Unless you're doing crazy aerial tricks, which most of us are not, than we only need to be able to turn our bars like 60degrees maximum left or right. This prototype Selva XL / EN / FR(?) This isnt a DH fork and Freeride isnt dead, as Italian suspension specialists Formula are bringing back the double crown with a new 180mm Formula Selva XL enduro fork prototype thats lighter than any equally long single crown enduro fork. Make your voice heard! Enduro is a type of race where all timed stages are pointing down, you may have some narrower tracks compared to what you see on the downhill but you are still pointing down. This not only made the test super fair because I will ride same cartridge and clicks with both the forks, but this also helped me shaving off another 100 grams out of the already light custom Dorado RRT, ending up at just over 2700 grams, not bad for a dual crown enduro fork, solid as the Dorado is! 351 I don't understand why this guy does not have more views. We have to change the single crown with a dual crown to ride enduro? For my 140mm trail bike, it's already working pretty well as is with single crown. Bike is such a riot, that begs you to charge recklessly through everything, making you feel underforked at times. All are available with 180 mm of travel. A 2005 DH bike is a complete catastrophy compared to a modern "trail" (160mm?) LOL. The Propain (which we will review in the next week or so) will likely add a spec option once it is official later this year. Does a dual crown actually put more stress on the headtube as a single crown? Still over 200g heavier than a Manitou Mezzer Pro 180mm. It's ridiculous. I had to run too much compression on it. The manufacturer specified 200mm of travel for the production bike in 2013. Dave isn't here answering, you might be able to have a chat with him via his website. It's been almost a decade since I've used one, and never for climbing. But doing so may have actually resulted in too stiff of a chassis where the internals couldnt cope quite as well with the inevitable flex that will always happen on the biggest hits. Ha, my question from a few months ago has come back again! I've found mobility in my bars in steep tight moves to help me out a ton. I still have my old RockShox Judy dual crown forks. Since Ive climbed those 1000 meters with my own forces 100% of times squeezing me out to death trying to beat my PR on the climbs too, my physical condition at the beginning of all the 30 descents was always different time to time, in fact I had days I felt really tired at the top and others I felt stronger before commencing the descent. A double-crown fork will make the front end feel . My first proper bike was Specialized Enduro with a 180mm 888 Marzocchi back in 2009. none of my bikes are new enough to have one and I am not sure what it is. 20 seconds gap between single and dual crown may not seems a big gap on a 13 minutes run, but we must note that the winning run with dual crown was done with super nasty wet conditions while the best run with single crown was done with a lovely dry easy perfect condition, so I think we should start looking at that the 20 seconds gap as a huge difference in time. At that point i found out the stinkys seat tube wasnt a solid piece from top to bottom, it ends where is welds to the shock mount plate. I loved that bike and can't believe the trails I used to take it down. But we still ride "big boy" terrain. Clearly not. It wasn't the tightest trail in the world but it had some decently tight switches on ascents and I feel like I managed about the same as I did on my older remedy. Seems like a good idea Id try it out. I'm mainly trying to make the point that when presented as scientific it should be held to scientific standards. The rest would be not significant. Weight is way overestimated by people thinking there's more advantage on the uphill than there actually is. Let me explain better: the handlebar on dual-crown is attached to the fork with a direct mount stem which gives you a pretty solid connection between the rider and the bike and at the same time, under the crowns, the fork works out the obstacles pretty nicely with its mix of stiffness and compliance, making a really pleasant ride. Its too bad, this is exactly what Im looking for and I like this better than MRPs Bartlett. i am in the "yt is nazi / 3 year olds arguing" tread with him and have to out up with his bullshit and shimano lawsuit. I have only borrowed a dh bi,e to ride park, so i don't now how it would hold up but I will say I like the turning radius for the crawler moves. Seems like Dave did a great job. Are there any bikes in between Enduro and DH that have a dropper, larger gear cassette, steeper seat tube angle, 200mm double crown fork and 200mm rear shock coil or air? And only upside down forks please. A 200mm fork also has a bit more sag to begin with and has a different work stroke so it evens itself out almost. On my enduro bike, I'm usually adding compression damping when I ride faster/ bigger-hit bike-park like trails, and backing the compression damping off when I'm on more natural trails. So I created an adapter to go 180 on enduro dorado, it was an interesting work to make my own custom caliper mount, a day of thinking, drawing, milling machine and hand filing, and the custom brake bracket came out nice and clean. Lots of open questions here.. so single crown vs dual crown for enduro , which one is the best? Both 180mm-ish travel. thanks for watching. Thus, I'm wondering whether it is possible to set up a dual crown fork in such a way that compression can be adjusted externally to suit both fast and burly dh race trails as well as more slower technical enduro trails. (because some enduro bikes are certified for it, some not i recognised), I think the bigger concern of frame damage is actually having the stanchions/bumpers put a dent/hole in your headtube when turning hard, rather than snapping anything off from riding force. Yes I want to turn my bars more than on a downhill bike or a Trek. I have to admit one of the runs with the Mezzer seemed to me the winning run in the mean time I was descendingbut on a steep section at the end of trail I crashed, and so game over. Filter down from the spandexed curly bar world "spin it to win it". One of the main reasons I chose my lefty fork was the dual crown set up, This is the right topic for doublecrownaddict, Totally want to build a Dreadnought with a Boxxer. @mixmastamikal: y welcome. I would definately have one, and called it freeride. @wakidesigned: I think I just saw a ghost. Dual crowns wont limit your ability to corner unless you ride hiking style switch backs that are narrow. @iceman2058 Thank you for conducting very well thought out comparison study. 200mm is too much for enduro. I broke my downhill bike last summer but really loved the forks so I threw them on my enduro bike and it made it better, I still never loved my enduro bike, the geometry and rear suspension never worked for me, so this year I bought the new norco shore and put the same dual crown fork DVO emeralds on it and it's incredible, it has great suspension, and a nice slack head angle comparable to my downhill bike, but it has a steeper seat tube angle and lower gear than my enduro bike had. . That said, the weight difference between a 35 lb single-crown bike and a 36-37 lb dual-crown bike probably wouldn't matter much. Astrals new all-road Luna Carbon wheelset comes with two hub options, lots of axle configurations, and room for 28-50mm wide tires, letting you cover all the grounds. So i've been looking through a lot of air suspensions and i'm not sure if the double crown fork or the regular fork on normal mtbs is better. I selected the best enduro loop I know, a nice 20k ride composed by 1000mt uphill transfer on tarmac from Feglino to Nato Base, followed by a 1000 m of descent single track style, enduro 100% Crestino trail, by the way some sections of this trail were used for the fourth stage Finale EWS back in 2016. Also, do Spesh allow dual crowns on the Enduro 29? Some of the descents were done with data acquisition installed, to cross checked the travel used, suspension speeds, balance, residual accelerations on the frame and many other technical numbers to make sure both suspension were set in same way: nothing strange to report here, all perfect. On top of this, there is actually a more meaningful reason for using smaller discs: and its the weight! At Structure Cycleworks we know this is a trick question! You had custom crowns made because the offset is much larger than enduro and regular mountain bike forks. Cory has been writing about mountain bikes, enduro, cyclocross, all-road, gravel bikes & bikepacking for over 25 years, even before the industry gave some these names. Why did everyone just forget about the Bartlett? And with that lightweight double crown comes a unique stiffness that allows for incredibly supple suspension.